Rivalry

[Silencer]

A Server needs rivalry or it will die. This is a proven fact of Mir.

A cuddly bear server wont last forever and the usercount wont grow.

Im not saying go the way of HR, what I am saying is the PK Points are high and thats fine, it makes the risk of PK severely punishable, however like everything in Mir and in life, things need punishments and rewards. The consequences of committing a crime irl are dire, but people only commit them for potential shortcut rewards. The same is true with Mir PK, you risk going red and not being able to enjoy free flowing gameplay (for a lengthy period of time on here.)
However there seems to be little or no body/bag drops on here, and they should be increased to match the punishment, if people are to risk pking then they should have a chance of reward before there impending punishment.

Im sure alot of people will say "hell no" and this is a "no pk" server for a reason, but would they rather have a low risk of dropping a few items, or would they rather have the usercount stoop so low that donations cease to match costs and the server dies?

Its the peoples choice and my guess is that logic and reasoning vote yes, the consensus doomed to fail will vote no, and another potentially good long life server will die. UHT always does eventually just depends how much hard work is put in first for people to lose a greater amount.

Address the issues and nip problems in the bud before they blossom into a smiting rage.

Silencer

[Ares]

You had a good idea before about providing another guild for rivalry - fighting for great wall/subak wall/guild wars and giving people the opportunity to choose which guild they want to join rather than joining the only established guild there is.

For me you seem to have gone of course with your thoughts, as you have stated it is a low pk server, it was intended to be this way to punish people that choose to pk rather than rewarding them.

The server gives people that don't want to have to worry about pking a place to come and play and have fun and not have it ruined for people pking for the sake of it or because they wanted one of your items.
Every bit of kit that someone has is in game and can be earned through working for it so there is no real need for death drops to be increased, I suggest just work for them instead of just being lazy and eyeing up someone elses hard work.

Ares.

[Zews]

A Server needs rivalry or it will die. This is a proven fact of Mir.

A cuddly bear server wont last forever and the usercount wont grow.

Im not saying go the way of HR, what I am saying is the PK Points are high and thats fine, it makes the risk of PK severely punishable, however like everything in Mir and in life, things need punishments and rewards. The consequences of committing a crime irl are dire, but people only commit them for potential shortcut rewards. The same is true with Mir PK, you risk going red and not being able to enjoy free flowing gameplay (for a lengthy period of time on here.)
However there seems to be little or no body/bag drops on here, and they should be increased to match the punishment, if people are to risk pking then they should have a chance of reward before there impending punishment.

Im sure alot of people will say "hell no" and this is a "no pk" server for a reason, but would they rather have a low risk of dropping a few items, or would they rather have the usercount stoop so low that donations cease to match costs and the server dies?

Its the peoples choice and my guess is that logic and reasoning vote yes, the consensus doomed to fail will vote no, and another potentially good long life server will die. UHT always does eventually just depends how much hard work is put in first for people to lose a greater amount.

Address the issues and nip problems in the bud before they blossom into a smiting rage.

Silencer

i totaly agree

[KONG]

theres a difference between low pk and no pk, currenetly this is a no pk server as u get harsh (but fair) penelies for pking. but if no one ever gunna drop ne thing then its a lil pointless having ne punishment appart from to stop mindless pk.

is the body drop rate same as hr? i feel it should be... so punishments match the risks. thats how u get a low pk server (with major punishments) not a no pk server (which is what we currently have)

just like to say also i love how sil got along with everyone and now he left mir maf gms cant stop jumping on the "lets have a 1 sided veiw bout ne thing to do with sil and not look at the other side of a point" bandwagon
think about the good of the server... its better if there are 2 guilds rather just 1 on a server, fact
we have no economy fact, need to create one. would be nice to get a bit of gm support with ideas suggestions and backup.

[Lone]

Kong nothing has been done to silencer that he didnt bring on him self.


He seems t othink that getting Kicked and a 5 minute chat ban is the end of the known universe.

the whole of the guild and staff know that extra guild means more rively and more fun for all so what hes comming out with is simply bollocks imo.

If he hadnt blocked every space on the stairs except the tele in spot with 3 chars and 4 pets guild members wouldnt of asked the gm to deal with it.

All he needed to do was press ctrl a and the problem would of been manageable as people could move in and out, but instead he didnt bother and was the usual Sil which ended with him getting a 5 minute chat ban.

He makes sly comments about staff which would get most user banned - its only because hes a mate that hes still on the forum so if your looking for favourtism im giving it to him on here, but if i see any more comments saying mira or the server gms are corrupt without any proof what so ever he will indeed get a 24 hour ban/ 3 day/ 7day then perm just like any one else.

I can only take the server staff getting abuse for so long before i will cut my loses and lose a friend rather then an honest 100% trust worthy staff member.

As to the PKing, atm i believe its set to as low as possible for body/bag drops, i guess this could be raised but with still only 20-30 people online having just 1 pker running round only pking for items acan have a massive detremental affect to the server, if one person with 3 friends leaves they then leave and so on, its a horrible knock on effect ^.^

So i would suggest rather then making it better drops from both bag and body - i'd prefer to raise the bag drops and leave the body fairly low as it pisses people off more losing something they actually use - where as if it was part of a recall kit of something else in the bag its not like its the end of the world.


But at the end of the day the server was created for those who didnt like pking/couldnt be bothered to compete with hr/didnt want to compete with massive donaters etc.

Much Love

Lone

(off to bed now - nn)

[Silencer]

When have I said anyone was corrupt? :S

[Silencer]

Thats off topic anyway, there are other posts for discussions of this nature, so back to the point of this topic.

If we're saying PK has no drops, and we want more SW wars, then surely Sabuk Wall during war times should have a higher body/bag drop chance????

[BloodRaw]

I suggested this weeks ago in the LR Rolling changes thread but got mowed down and the post was eventually deleted. This will never change so theres no point trying Sil mate.

[LonesGirlfriend]

I suggested this weeks ago in the LR Rolling changes thread but got mowed down and the post was eventually deleted. This will never change so theres no point trying Sil mate.

lol of course there a point in trying, if you dont voice your opinions then your aint gonna get anywhere, dotn put ppl off voicing thieir views and tbh i never saw your post about this before and yes they owuld have been deleted to keep the thread clean so ppl can actually see whats changed. anyway thought you left or are you coming back now?

Thats off topic anyway, there are other posts for discussions of this nature, so back to the point of this topic.

If we're saying PK has no drops, and we want more SW wars, then surely Sabuk Wall during war times should have a higher body/bag drop chance????

getting sw has its benefits anyway otherwise there would be no point in having it other than a fancy title, bag drops i could live with tbh body drops id personally be less happy about giving body drops a higher chance of happening, due to the nature of the server sometimes it can be hard to get nice kit (although it obviously can be done) and it would be a pain the backside to lose what you use all the time, on hr it doesnt matter too much if you lose abit of your kit cos it can be replaced easier than it can on here.

i do see your point with this quote tho for something that im against i would actually consider this one its not a bad suggestion but i do think that you would have to be careful due to the numbers kicking around on the server atm you wouldnt want to pee ppl off too much :P

cheer up sil and come back

[BloodRaw]

lol of course there a point in trying, if you dont voice your opinions then your aint gonna get anywhere, dotn put ppl off voicing thieir views and tbh i never saw your post about this before and yes they owuld have been deleted to keep the thread clean so ppl can actually see whats changed. anyway thought you left or are you coming back now?

Nope, like i stated in the GreatWall thread, BloodRaw was deleted along with all the items and the guild furthermore this is how it is going to stay. 4 days after i do not regret my decision. In regards to Penny's thread about Preface, guildies didn't really lose anything in terms of items/gold. i paid for the GT, i paid the rent, i submitted the relic for GW, i bought the recall set, i did the recalling lol.

I've logged on forums as I'm interested in starting Mir Reborn and see what that's all about.

On topic though, i did honestly request a change in the amount of confrontation the server currently had (which was none) but the post got mowed down.