Enhancing Tao classes

[Dashiva]

As difficult to add new spells to the game the only choice to beef up Taoists and make them worthwhile to play and get to a higher level would be to mess around with the skills already in place:

Level 68 Supreme SFB: As a tao I don't find myself using SFB ata ll, even though I had the advanced version it does FAR too little damage. Flame Field does more damage then this spell and Flame Field can hit 10+ mobs. With my SC I can get about 150 -160 max with SFb. This should be doubled at the very least
Level 72: Elite Shinsu - Much higher AC/AMC/HP and better Acc and mc. Shinsu's as they are are good for nothing, they cant hit any boss in the game.
Level 74: Godly Deva OR Spirit fox: Godly deva would be the same idea as Elite Shinsu, but applied to Deva. Spirit fox would be a black fox (the warrior ones, i think they are black) that has much faster A. Speed and much higher DC/HP. The fox would be a good idea as with shinny and deva this leaves no tao with a decent DC pet. The black fox can hit two spaces so it does give thrusting to a tao but not nearly as high level as a warrior would have.

In my opinion I would prefer the fox over the Deva, for the DC element and because having a really good deva would be a bit unfair in PvP/SW as deva is very annoying as it is against the other classes and along with curse taos would become more horrible to pvp then they already are!!

My two cents, any feedback is welcome

[KONG]

def agree with this and the need to beef up taos at a higher lvl. personal vote would be with the uber sfb option. make the book pretty rare and make spell hit twice as hard as adv sfb =)
BUT
make the lvl on it high so taos have to put a bit of hard work in to get it =P i would say lvl 84 lvl 87 and lvl 90 for the options =P considering the new cave cave will be in in a couple of weeks i see no problem with having to work really hard for it =P

also put the book in a wiz area so i can get the drop and rip off dash n levi =P

[Lone]

I have been discussing taoists with Shirley today enfact :P

the main focus of the discussion was about getting the Ultra Deva but i cant actually see the link between the pet DB and the skills DB so i assume its in the Source code which i cant actually edit.

so i cant actually create a new Spell for it buuuut

the idea we came up with was to come up with new Skill book which would need to be traded which would give you access to a new command @TaoPet

when using the command you would summon an additional pet (which would work with a minimum of 2 other pets)

the Pet would have the same style of attack as the red moon evil so it would hit everything on the screen - buuut the attack wouldnt be amazingly strong and would hit maybe once every 5 seconds but it would have very high Acc/AC/AMC/HP - this would Help with hit everything and make sure you get all the exp from the Mass poison that is still being lost when having big lures.

In addition to this (taking into account the suggestions of a Uber Shinsu) i could create another SkillBook but which would again give access to another command @TaoPet2 which could give an additional Shinny pet which would be tougher. this would work in additon to 1 other pet (so you could have the mass attack pet as well.)

I like the idea of the UberUberSFB too (which i can actually do by copying the existing spell and improving it a bit )

So i will try to get these sorted out by the end of today and hopefully they will take effect from Mondays reboot (but then again i might hold off because if something goes wrong ill be in blackpool and wont be able to resolve the issues :P)

(btw these would be higher level skills something like 60-65-70 or maybe even 70+ to give you taoists something to work towards ;P )

[levi]

def agree with this and the need to beef up taos at a higher lvl. personal vote would be with the uber sfb option. make the book pretty rare and make spell hit twice as hard as adv sfb =)
BUT
make the lvl on it high so taos have to put a bit of hard work in to get it =P i would say lvl 84 lvl 87 and lvl 90 for the options =P considering the new cave cave will be in in a couple of weeks i see no problem with having to work really hard for it =P

also put the book in a wiz area so i can get the drop and rip off dash n levi =P

thats so nice of u to ask for it to drop in a wizz place!! btw lone doesnt that mean that we have to remove a spell cos otherwise we will exceed the limit of 24 i believe. how about a quest instead to get uber sfb instead.

[Dashiva]

I have been discussing taoists with Shirley today enfact :P

the main focus of the discussion was about getting the Ultra Deva but i cant actually see the link between the pet DB and the skills DB so i assume its in the Source code which i cant actually edit.

so i cant actually create a new Spell for it buuuut

the idea we came up with was to come up with new Skill book which would need to be traded which would give you access to a new command @TaoPet

when using the command you would summon an additional pet (which would work with a minimum of 2 other pets)

the Pet would have the same style of attack as the red moon evil so it would hit everything on the screen - buuut the attack wouldnt be amazingly strong and would hit maybe once every 5 seconds but it would have very high Acc/AC/AMC/HP - this would Help with hit everything and make sure you get all the exp from the Mass poison that is still being lost when having big lures.

In addition to this (taking into account the suggestions of a Uber Shinsu) i could create another SkillBook but which would again give access to another command @TaoPet2 which could give an additional Shinny pet which would be tougher. this would work in additon to 1 other pet (so you could have the mass attack pet as well.)

I like the idea of the UberUberSFB too (which i can actually do by copying the existing spell and improving it a bit )

So i will try to get these sorted out by the end of today and hopefully they will take effect from Mondays reboot (but then again i might hold off because if something goes wrong ill be in blackpool and wont be able to resolve the issues :P)

(btw these would be higher level skills something like 60-65-70 or maybe even 70+ to give you taoists something to work towards ;P )

The idea of higher levels would be fine with me anyway and would let people go for higher taos. The only thing is that you have to realise just how weak taoists are in the way Low Rate is played. Is it no possible to up shinsu in the way you upped SFB as having to type @pet every time you wanna summon will be a major hindrancew when killing a boss

I think that any new spells should be HUGELY upped as taos are very limited in what they can do and need some help

[levi]

^^ QUests are effort! Just put it in the GoR file so u4ea can give it to me

no pressure on yoof tho?

[D1craig]

if its a @command tyher i no need to remove a spell and the spell will not be able to be levelled.

[Lone]

The idea of higher levels would be fine with me anyway and would let people go for higher taos. The only thing is that you have to realise just how weak taoists are in the way Low Rate is played. Is it no possible to up shinsu in the way you upped SFB as having to type @pet every time you wanna summon will be a major hindrancew when killing a boss

I think that any new spells should be HUGELY upped as taos are very limited in what they can do and need some help

^^ tbh with a level 70 tao you can solo pretty much any boss at all (except maybe GoR) I know this is true because my brother does it on Thai it just takes longer than the other classes :P

the only thing that taoists really lack in is leveling speed. which with Spirit wind, Masspoison and the new pet it isn't as hard as it used to be at all :P

the main thing that is missing imo for taoists is something to aim for at higher levels which will give them the drive to actually want to keep leveling.

Im sure we can increase the strength of Shinsus some what to give them the ability to actually hit things and take a bit more damage (ill get that boost to take effect right now enfact :P )

(and to speed up the typing speed, just copy and paste the command :P "Enter, Ctrl+V, Enter" New pet spawned :P

if its a @command tyher i no need to remove a spell and the spell will not be able to be levelled.

I think he was actually refering to the UberSFB spell :P

[Lone]

Shinsu just had its stats increased - HP Tripled, DC Doubled, Agility Doubled, Acc Tripled.

[Dashiva]

^^ tbh with a level 70 tao you can solo pretty much any boss at all (except maybe GoR) I know this is true because my brother does it on Thai it just takes longer than the other classes :P

the only thing that taoists really lack in is leveling speed. which with Spirit wind, Masspoison and the new pet it isn't as hard as it used to be at all :P

the main thing that is missing imo for taoists is something to aim for at higher levels which will give them the drive to actually want to keep leveling.

Im sure we can increase the strength of Shinsus some what to give them the ability to actually hit things and take a bit more damage (ill get that boost to take effect right now enfact :P )

(and to speed up the typing speed, just copy and paste the command :P "Enter, Ctrl+V, Enter" New pet spawned :P




I think he was actually refering to the UberSFB spell :P

Taos can solo most bosses, not all.

I can do Evil mir myself, but that requires me poisoning it, running away and waiting for 30 minutes, then by the time you get to walls it has RS'd again. there is no joy in poison killing a boss.

Tadanga is nearly impossible for a tao as it takes away your AC/AMC blesses every time it masses hit, as it also takes away your poison and curse when it masses hits which is almost every hit for a tao as Toe to Toe'ing is not a possibility.

I haven't tried to get to god of revenge yet as it would take a ridiculous amount of time for a tao to kill ET mobs and collect souls.

I can solo the other bosses yes but their drops are pretty crap when you have numa kit and some heavens.

I'd like to thank you for increasing the Shinny attack power but I still don't think I'll be using it as double its Dc is still pretty slim!