DC vs SC vs MC.

[Tallos]

This is easier to show for those of us who've played Euro, another way is to get people to look at their weapons of equal level, it always used to be (in quantity) DC > MC > SC, SC was always last because Tao's also get good use from DC, so most of their items had both (which often added up to more than DC).

Anyway, something I've begun to notice is that there's a lot more MC than there is DC, look at any Heaven/Mir Item and you'll see what I mean, WHY is this? I've seen the damage a Wiz can do and I've seen the damage a Warr can do, the Wiz outstrips them by miles, add on the fact it's ranged, it's likely to slow them (Blizzard) and it's got a smaller "cooldown" (time between use) than FlamingSword... It's kinda hard to grasp why they hurt so much more and generally are much MUCH better at it (3x3 hit in a player vs player pk'ing fight is unfathomably better than a single shot which is easily avoided, this is without bringing fw in to the equation, which rapes anyone unlucky enough to take a few steps in it).

I know Boogle is currently looking at all Warrior's amc, mostly because it's painfully low even at a high level and we have literally no defence against magic other than amc/hp. I'm sure someone will bring up the oh-so-great argument that a Warrior can kill a Wiz in 2-3 seconds...... If they hit their high end dc, with the Wiz stood beside them for all of that time, the second the Wiz moves they're going to drop a few fw's and that's game over, without a Para (none ingame on MR) you stand literally no chance in a fight vs a Wiz. Don't get me started on trying to fight a Tao that knows Curse is a spell and not just an end result of a bad bene. >_<

[Desire]

i managed to kill Venus when she had 4 numacheifs. and made her rt later on, just gotta use tacktics to catch the wiz offguard. Altho i do feel DC on some items is abit weird, less than mc, and equal to sc :=/

but i agree wid tao's, impossible for war to win vs tao but thats fair enough, tao's r gud for pvp

[Gridlock]

yeah thats true and wizards are not defenseless anymore and their items and weapons usually comes with + hp, like Eye of Evil + 150 hp bichon bracelet + 40 hp lvl 60 armors are also + hp etc etc @ lvl 60 they already get at least 1100++ hp... a warrior with 200 dc can only damage 500 max with fs... that means that a warrior needs to hit a wiz 3 times very fast in order to kill im which quite difficult to do unless you have an insane atk spd and no lag...

Tao's are out of the question as they need to be good in pvp coz they are very hard to level... usually a tao has to fight some with at least 10 - 20 lvls a head of im...

[Tallos]

Venus isn't exactly geared for fighting, whereas you are Sab, if he played the fw running game you'd of been screwed regardless - I used to do it on Euro when I had a **** pc, with 2 fw's and lots of IceStorm I could kill a level 40+ Warrior that could easily 2 shot me (possibly 1 shot, with a good hit) without any real trouble, it's just a case of keeping plenty of distance between you and judging where the other person will go. If Ven had Bass's kit and you were level 66 (Ven's level) you'd of been dead in a few seconds, literally - One of Bass's Blizzard's takes off half of my 1.8k hp, lol.

If it doesn't get changed I don't mind that much, I have a level 52 Wiz I think I'll concentrate on, because they boast many gains over a Warrior, the sick leveling speed and surprisingly high hp (as Grid mentioned, they have lots of +hp things, at 52 mine has 533hp from 2 BichonBracer's and CrystalArmour... That's enough to survive a full FS shot with shield up from any Warrior ingame, unless I'm mistaken (Shield does block a good portion of FS damage on here, right? Same as Euro?).