Jinkx 24 hour ban

[Mira]

Jinkx has been banned for 24 hours for GM abuse (screenied) followed by misleading global shouts (screenied having been warned to stop) followed by misleading stories being told to others (screenied) and then not apologising after being given plenty of time (and reminders) to do so (screenies timed).

Someone please remind me to unban the char after the reboot, thank you.

If anyone wants to abuse GMs, don't hesitate, but be aware there is a price to pay

Mira

[Dall]

The reason Jinx was getting was wound up is that he was benig called a noob for lvling pets in the map area after spending 2 mil and the getting d/c'ed by Mira...

What didn't help was messages such as "Bye Jinx" before d/c'ing a player in DiC, it was also frustrating for Jinkx to have to rnu to DiC 4 times being disconnceted each time and when I joined Jinkx at DiC KR there was a full spawn yet no DiC which was convenient...

Jinkx tried to make a suggestion as if you didn't know there was much point in lvling high lvl pets to be called a noob was a bit drastic and not very constructive frmo a GM after all we are not all fountains of knowledge and to be disconnected after lvling pets which cost 2 mil is a bit harsh.

If Jinkx was completely in the wrong why was the 2 mil refunded to his bag ??

I think a 24hr ban is a bit harsh as both sides seem to rub each others backs up which never helps but obviously against a GM an argument will never be won even if the GM is partially to blame...

[Lone]

tbh Dall you only have 1 side of the story - the screenies of Jinkx calling Mira retarded are all the proof she needs to issue the ban, she was trying to explain the situation about pets to Jinkx but had the advice that was offered thrown back in her face.

being someone who has had this happen many times myself its frustrating when you offer help and then get told you dont know what your talking about.


Jinkx decided to start talking lies to Dashiva dueing this process saying that there had been no warnings about the kick or any info from Mira - This was a lie, Mira has the screenies, mira has the screenies of Jinkx telling Dash that he had no warning and Mira has the screenies of the entire convocation.

I 100% understand the frustration of having to run back to the kings room time and time again but i would hope you could understand the frustration of having a Noob trying to tell you that the tests you have run and quintified dont matter.

the Term "Noob" in online games refers to the players knowledge of the game - or lack of.

if Jinkx didnt understand the term, then there is reason to understand why he got annoyed but there is no need for him to start calling Mira Retarded.

i 100% support mira in the decision, i dont want the staff of the server taking any abuse when they are simply trying to do their job.


Jinkxs was repeatedly warned and then eventually kicked, he returned after resetting his IP address then decided to Mock Mira, who then under my guidenece Banned the character.

if it was me that was being called retarded you might not be seeing Jinkx for a week, but hey it was Mira and shes actually fairly light hearted.


hope that gives a little more info from the other side of the story.


All the best

lone

Also the comment about the boss not being there being convienient...... Please dont follow that line the last people to shout corruption suffered a worse fate than Jinkx. for reference the DiC spawns every other spawn and theres gamegold teleports to get to the kings room. (or the room immediately before)

[Dashiva]

I was just a pawn in this silly game of ego's!

In my opinion, if Jinkx is a newb for not knowing that the high level pets have no added advantage (or close enough). Then so is over 50% of this server, as the information was only released AFTER Jinkx was banned. This information is specific to these set of servers, as you guys have implemented these pets that were not available on euro mir, where most of us oldies gained our knowledge.

This was badly handled by Jinkx, who refused to take it to PM, even though I was insisting that he do so all the way through it. I do not think that Mira handled it too well from the beginning either. Calling a player a newb for not knowing a fact, that is specific to these set of servers only, is a silly idea. This will only get anyone into defensive mode, including me.

Though it can't be fun putting all this effort in to aid the server and getting this sort of abuse, a bit of tact should be necessary when explaining information which should have been told to us months ago.

This is just my side to the story, I haven't seen the screenshots, but both Jinkx and Mira were talking to me throughout this.

[Lone]

the lack of advantage of leveling high level pets isnt specific to this server - its been on every single server with high level pets available.

Mira only went and wrote up the explaination due to the fact that you guys didnt know about it previously.

the issue isnt specific to this server you can only add a max of 420hp to a mob through leveling it up, on anyserver running TDs Mir files.


also again i mention the terms "Noob" and "Newb" they have 2 different meanings which depending if you know these different meanings decides if you will take offense of not

read up here to get an understanding of the 2 terms.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob


Mira didnt mean to offend by using a commonly known term in the online gaming environment tbh in this case i would have to say Jinkx was definately (checks reference) a Noob, due to his unwillingness to learn from what Mira was trying to tell him. that doesnt mean he is a Newb at the game though - even though at some aspects its questionable :P

[Dashiva]

I said the it was specific to this set of servers which would take all of TD's mir databases as a groupas the same basic ideas and limititations stem from TD's first rendering of the server files.

The idea of a "high level pet" is also subjective, this is because high level can be viewed differently depending on, again, what server your on. High level on euro is low on Low Rate. High level on Low Rate is low on Med Rate etc...
If you had tamed Evil Tongs on euro, this would be viewed as a high level pet. There is a very real chance that I am wrong, but I am pretty sure levelling these is highly advantageous.

The idea of "newb" and "noob" being different may be true to some people who feel the need look up a dictionary spelling for a made up 'net-slang, but as far as I'm concerned its just a different spelling for the same word. This would go for alot of people I know too.

I am not trying to provoke an arguement here, just giving an insight to Jinkx's perspective. Myself, I would not have apologised and very likely recieved the ban too.

[Lone]

its all totally understandable

that chances are though you wouldnt of taken offense to the comment in the same way that Jinkx did, as always the Context of the convocation should be considered when looking into things, and im pretty sure you wouldnt of come out and called Mira a retard after getting some advice

[Dashiva]

It wouldn't normally happen no, but there are bad days for everyone and sometimes the slightest provocation can bring out the worst in us.

Well, hopefully, this is all over now. Jinkx's ban will be lifted in a few hours and, if luck is with us, they will both let it go :P

[Dall]

its all totally understandable

that chances are though you wouldnt of taken offense to the comment in the same way that Jinkx did, as always the Context of the convocation should be considered when looking into things, and im pretty sure you wouldnt of come out and called Mira a retard after getting some advice

Fair comment but at the same time I wouldn't have expected GM to call anyone a noob/newb(I wouldn't have known the difference).

I think in this instance both parties are partly to fault, yes Jinkx should not have reacted in the way you are saying he did but at the same time if someone called me a noob after making a simple suggestion my back would have been straight up as well. I know when my back goes up I only hear/read half of what is being said as I am already on the defensive.

I know from experience it is difficult being in a position of power especially as you have to change the way you act/speak depending on with whom you are speaking.

Unfortunately as pointed out earlier only heard the one side of the story but did seem a bit out of sorts especailly as Jinkx is normally an extremely helpful person and have never seen him say a bad word to anyone!

[Dall]

Oh and dash get of the forums and get lvling pfftttt....