Is Pking ruining the server?

[Petroni]

Pking is part of the game - I have no problem with that.

The rules (good post Foxy) do not address pking so its hard for anyone to know what is 'allowed' and what is 'too much'.

If you get into shop fights thats your business - go red, drop your kit, knock yourselves out.

But for those who want to play the game, build their levels and improve their kit, and who do not pk without reason, this post is for you.

The number of people who are leaving because of constant pking at bosses or just in levlling areas is a concern. If 'new blood' is not coming into the game this is bad news for the servers future and will mean that a small number of high level pkers continue to steal every boss and prevent anyone from getting the level or kit needed to challenge them.

GMs only have part of the picture as most of the incidents go unreported other then vague references in leaving posts.

If this is acceptable to Jamie then no probs, if it is not, then I suggest the following. Change the time that pk points take to wear off.

Currently you can pk, get 100 pk points, go yellow for a few secs and then white (and be free of the penalty in two hours), or the moment you are white you can immediately pk someone else, get another 100 points, and stay yellow for 2 hours, then white and so on.

This means that boss stealling pkers can kill 12 people each per day and only be yellow for 12 minutes if they get they timing perfect! No wonder the minless pking happens. I have often heard players say they will pk a few ppl for drops before going afk overnight to wear off the points.

I suggest that the pk points system be changed and for a while the pkpoints take 20 minutes each to wear off. Thats 33 hours rather than 2 for each person you pk. So you could still pk 2 a day without going red but after that you pay a big price.

Also, change the pk points to 99 per kill, rather than 100. That way, someone who has 2 accidental pks does not go red inside the 20 minutes, but a third pk within a 20 minute period would make you red, and for a long time. This reduces the 'overnight pkers' ability to 'pk without penalty' as there is a much longer time penalty. It would also reduce the pking by a very big amount but still make it legal - the penalty just gets bigger.

To balance this, anyone who then tries 'red making' gets a severe ban. Some have been doing this out of frustration at being constantly pked.

That should get the debate started. I rarely pk (unless attacked first) but when I do, I accept the pkpoints as a fair penalty. But currently the penalty is nowhere near enough to stop those who are wrecking the play of others. The time limit can be messed about with but what do you think of the basic idea as a way to address the current problem?

Silo

[DrakayM7]

no .

[Lone]

well to counter Drakays inspirational post (you can tell he put alot of thought into it)

Yes!

I think this is a cracking idea, it will help with the PKing instantly, and will make people think before they go pking randomly.

it leaves you the option to go and PK who ever you like but it means you cant go and greif that player because of redness.

I think its a sensible idea and should be tried out before its dismissed by people that dont think about things before they post.

Lone

[Olima]

No, the lack of anything new to achieve is.

[ODB]

Good idea, but i dont agree that its ruining the server - it the people who havent addapted to the way of the game - Pk'ing, who then go and *** to GM's/Mods ect.

Its also the people who can never be pleased, nothing is ever good enough. This server is updated quite a bit, maybe not allot but this is run by 1 guy - something you lot are not doing, but you are quick to start 100's of threads about what u want, and what doesnt suite you for your lvl's ect - every body wants things thrown to them.

Ice temple was introduced, wasnt good enough - but no 1 realised it was for like lvl 58+ with Very good kit and in a big group.

EP was introduced, people dont even hunt there but i know from my own experience that its 1 of the best places in-game to go.

98% of the server stands in BW fighting, Greifing and abusing people. But when something is said back to them, or their greifd back then they get them banned - Something happend for people to be like this, because 3weeks ago it wasnt like this at all.

[Burntsoul]

I sort of agree. Im all for pking myself, i love gettin into a good scrap, but it does scare a lot of ppl off.

The penalty really is to low at the mo, as silo pointed out.

[Lone]

Good idea, but i dont agree that its ruining the server - it the people who havent addapted to the way of the game - Pk'ing, who then go and *** to GM's/Mods ect.

Its also the people who can never be pleased, nothing is ever good enough. This server is updated quite a bit, maybe not allot but this is run by 1 guy - something you lot are not doing, but you are quick to start 100's of threads about what u want, and what doesnt suite you for your lvl's ect - every body wants things thrown to them.

Ice temple was introduced, wasnt good enough - but no 1 realised it was for like lvl 58+ with Very good kit and in a big group.

EP was introduced, people dont even hunt there but i know from my own experience that its 1 of the best places in-game to go.

98% of the server stands in BW fighting, Greifing and abusing people. But when something is said back to them, or their greifd back then they get them banned - Something happend for people to be like this, because 3weeks ago it wasnt like this at all.

but if this was introduced for say 2 weeks (as a trial) we'd get 2 weeks of people actually hunting, instead of logging on getting into a fight in town, having an arguement, having it spill over to the forums, they get banned on the forums for abusing each other, they then go back ingame to argue some more, and end up ***ing when they get banned ingame.

all because they ended up getting slapped whilst walking through town (i know its abit dramatic but im sure it happens.)

when ever im online i almost always see noobs trying to make people red when they are fighting in town when i advise them that doing that is greif play they always come out and say well i cant hunt bosses because when ever i get there i get pked, or if i do manage to get their i get half way through killing the mob then get pked surely thats greif.

i then usally reply with you need to email admin@mirrevenge.com with screenies and so on but they then say that nothing gets done and thats probably because lapta is so snowed under by the other users complaining ( or they dont bother to actually email lapta about it and he never realises theres a problem)


There is a problem with PKing on this server if you are low enough to be killed, If your a high leveler and people know you will put up a fight they tend to think before attacking (or they just call for reinforcement to help kill you)

Personally i think this is a drastic measure to solve a drastic Problem and its completely suitable for this server.

But yeah ODB im sure you remember back in the day people actually used to Que up for bosses, you arrived in the kr Shouted whats the que and then you'd join the back of it, But its got to a point where users want everything right now and they dont want to work for it so it results to Mob rule. ( hmm whats that word im looking for .... o yeah Mannors or respect )

[me1]

i feel that the problem pking is that done by ppl that think they own certain areas and rooms of the server. I have been told leave or be pk'ed THIS IS MY ROOM by another player to pk for the reason of trying to claim ownage over ne part of the server or ne mob in the server is griefing other players in my opinion ( if my opinion counts)

Maybe teleports to all bosses would be good and u tele out when u killed it or died then the next person can go in, teles being dropped by mobs in the relevent caves or temples.

But then i dont know if that even possible

Oh well i hope it gets sorted soon as im sure someone somewhere will start a server where pking cannot be a problem.

Great server otherwise and if im not pk'ed i enjoy playing.

[Lone]

i feel that the problem pking is that done by ppl that think they own certain areas and rooms of the server. I have been told leave or be pk'ed THIS IS MY ROOM by another player to pk for the reason of trying to claim ownage over ne part of the server or ne mob in the server is griefing other players in my opinion ( if my opinion counts)

Maybe teleports to all bosses would be good and u tele out when u killed it or died then the next person can go in, teles being dropped by mobs in the relevent caves or temples.

But then i dont know if that even possible

Oh well i hope it gets sorted soon as im sure someone somewhere will start a server where pking cannot be a problem.

Great server otherwise and if im not pk'ed i enjoy playing.

of course your opinion counts you play the game you should be able to contribute to discussions

I think this is one of the factors, people that have only just started the game and have their own personal views dont share them due to others shouting over them and trying to belittle them.

keep the opinions comming the more we have the better informed a decision that can be made.


(also i think those teleports you are taking about exist for some places, so they are possible ^.^)

[Source]

tbh petroni i think its a great idea i persoanlly hate pk ive never done it and dont think i ever will reasons i work hard for my kit and dont wana loose it people who know me from other servers will know that, i think theirs far too much random pk in the game which really does ruin it takes the enjoyment out for alot of people who just like to play.


kitana

ps take away the option for paying off your points